[dragonwriter]

> yet drop someone with a beginners loved language like Python 3.8 and they will have fun throughout the almost 2000 pages of documentation plus all major libraries in use across the ecosystem, and Python implementations.

I would agree that the Python ecosystem is as complex as the C++ language.

I would not agree that the Python language is as complex as the C++ language, or that they Python ecosystem is as complex as the C++ ecosystem.

I will agree also that the Python language has very comprehensive first-party tutorial and reference documentation, but that doesn't add to the complexity.

[pjmlp]

Then it is time to learn some clever use of Python metaprogramming, metaclasses, how slots interact with old style attributes, old and new style classes, clever tricks with magical methods, stackless vs regular Python, multiple ways to format strings, arithmetic semantic changes,...

[dragonwriter]

I was aware of all those things when I made the original statement, thank you.

[uryga]

> old style attributes, old and new style classes

pretty sure that's only a factor if you need to deal with Python 2

[pjmlp]

I expect any Developer X, to comfortably understand a random codebase of language X.

[shaklee3]

I think the two major c++ documentation websites are far better than the official Python documentation. They have more examples, the different variants are clear across which version of the language you are using, and I never need to go elsewhere. Python documentation is typically lacking many of the examples you'd really want, and you need to go elsewhere to find those.