[incadenza]

My disagreement with the fsf is pretty fundamental. I don’t see anything wrong, all things equal, with paying someone for software that is closed source provided there’s some way to ensure it’s not doing things wildly unexpected or malicious. Perhaps it’s impossible to verify such a thing without source code, but the core ethical claim seems off to me.

[mhh__]

It's not about maliciousness it's about owning the machine. If you bought a radio in the 1950s, you could take it to bits and fix or upgrade it. You can't do that's with today's software.

It's not comfortable for companies but it is a simply better way of doing software development both ethically and in terms of quality.

[ethanwillis]

Off in what way?