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by stann 2118 days ago
China is NOT 'imprisoning a million Muslims in a concentration camp'. Dig a little deeper. Hyperbole does not help anybody.
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Right, the one million seems like the lowball esitmate from the UN Human Rights Council and the US Congressional Committee.

Local sources like the NCHRD had the number of concentration camp inmates at 2 to 3 million already back in 2018. Of course it is possible that most have starved since or have become organ donors, so numbers are hard to pin down.

I would love to dig deeper but I keep hitting a firewall of propaganda.
You are right, they re-educating them: Removing the impure things they learned or were born with, and instilling the Party ideals in them.
You are correct in that they have not imprisoned a million Uyghur muslims.

But it is cultural genocide with widespread, systemic rape, torture and murder.

Also it is questionable about whether they are free to leave the Xinjiang area.

> genocide

That's a big word do you have any proof other than military thinktanks rehashing the same old nonsense?

What's a good estimate on how many have been tortured, raped and murdered? (To use your words)

When the US still has more people in prison predominantly of one race (not per capita either, gross numbers) it's perhaps a good time to talk about the systemic imprisonment of black people that no one seems to flinch about.

For all the talk of Uyghurs literally no Western country is taking them in, do you see the UK or US lining up to take in a million Muslim separatists?

It's yellow peril all over again. Why is the UN human rights commissioner repeatedly refusing to visit the region despite getting numerous requests? Why are Muslim Western allies visiting and finding nothing extreme that matches the constant media bombardment we receive in the West? Our Western aligned Muslim allies are literally signing multicountry letters to the UNHRC saying that it's all a media beatup and yet no one here really wants to talk about that.

Are we really going to base all this on evidence from the people that insisted Saddam had weapons of Mass Destruction and that justified a 20 year war that resulted in millions of deaths mostly civilian? Do you honestly trust them this time aroundor is it _different_ this time?

https://medium.com/@jerry_grey2002/abc-four-corners-tell-the... Here's a solid read from an Australian policeman who cycled through Xinjiang province, nothing he sees lines up with the rhetoric you'll find from internet commentators who have never been to China.