[haggy]

When is the last time you used it? I've been a full time scala developer for over 4 years now spanning versions 2.11, 2.12, and now heading into 2.13. There have been massive improvements across consistency and huge convergences happening across the scala FP community in terms of library usage.

> the reliance on JVM (ewww... so you end up having to be a Scala expert AND a Java expert... plus deal with JVM windup time and JVM stacktraces... Not noob-friendly)

This is just plain weird. This makes me feel like you spent zero time actually working with the JVM and it's incredible ecosystem. Being fully inter-operable with Java is a huge win for both adoption and usability. Not only that but the JVM is one of the most mature runtimes in existence with massive amounts of documentation and help available.