[alexchamberlain]

Isn’t the point that BGP is great in the same way as the Model T was great? No one is saying it wasn’t needed or - to a certain extent - doesn’t do the job, but given recent (and not so recent) improvements to technology and security standards, maybe we need a BGP 2.0?

[PietjePukster]

BGP 2.0, like self driving cars, are five years away.

For the last 20 years..

[p_l]

Good that we're running BGP 4, right? ;)

[Aperocky]

This makes total sense because humans are inherently lazy. Hurd would be out in production in 199x if not for Linux. But it's still being worked on in 2020.

[phone[phone]]

> humans are inherently lazy

> Hurd would be out in production in 199x if not for Linux.

I think Hurd is not a good example of this. Hurd being sidelined seems to me to be a result of bikeshedding (which microkernel to use) and realizing that Linux (as a kernel) had more effort being poured into it because it had more mindshare.

> But it's still being worked on in 2020.

At more or less a leisurely pace as a passion project more than the end goal being production, precisely because the social goal that it was trying to achieve has been mostly achieved by the Linux kernel.