[blinkingled]

Most browsing still happens on desktop and without the equivalent HTML5 standards there would be no replacing Flash. Last I checked Apple really isn’t a big web standards pusher or implementer. I guess people just have to romanticize everything Apple. Sure it was a factor but Apple hardly was the only factor.

[jakelazaroff]

It’s very revisionist history to say that Apple has never been a big standards pusher or implementer. Basically every modern browser engine other than Gecko is descended from Apple’s Webkit.

[rudiv]

Apple WebKit itself is descended from KDE's WebKit IIRC.

[jakelazaroff]

KDE's browser engine wasn't called WebKit, but you're correct that WebKit began by forking it. That doesn't contradict my point, though.

[blinkingled]

Porting KHTML to macOS and honoring its license to keep it open is very different than contributing to the HTML5 standard and implementing cutting edge features quickly. The latter helps with killing Flash more than declaring we are not going to support it.

[reaperducer]

Apple made Flash a no-go on mobile. At the time, people had no distinction between mobile web and desktop web, so if your web site didn't work on an iPhone, it was forgotten and left in the dust.

Today, you can be on one or the other. But that wasn't the case back then.

Last I checked Apple really isn’t a big web standards pusher or implementer

I'm sorry you wasted your time checking on something that I didn't state.

people just have to romanticize everything Apple

No romanticizing needed. I was there, and lived through it.

[blinkingled]

> I'm sorry you wasted your time checking on something that I didn't state.

Just saying no Flash use our app store apps without contributing to open xp alternatives does not amount to killing Flash. Making the alternative better, accessible to all in an open way does.