[ralfd]

Quite a bit "dark-washed". Aurelius was likely from the Balkans/Dacia, maybe even descended from Roman settlers, Carus was probably from southern Gaul.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carus

Vespasian and Domitian were Italian nobles. Tacitus (who was Italian too) and Florianus were half-brothers, so they should be similar.

Marcus Aurelius family comes from Spain, and his mother was a noble Roman woman... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domitia_Calvilla ...and his father's mother was a Roman woman too.

It is all just speculation but compare it to this artistic rendition:

https://i.redd.it/92np45xeap521.jpg

Actually what irks me is his son Commodus: This is not how blonde people, even with a tan, even black haired Italians with a tan and narcistically coloring their hair with gold glitter, look like.

[ralfd]

I meant with first Aurelius = Aurelian

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelian

> "The ancient sources do not agree on his place of birth, although he was generally accepted as being a native of Illyricum"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyricum_(Roman_province)

[nemosaltat]

I swear this was posted a couple weeks ago and there was a big thread on how “white-washed” it was. I can’t find the post now.

[rbecker]

> Marcus Aurelius family comes from Spain

And that is Spain before the Moorish invasion. A similar asterisk could be added to much of the rest of North Africa regarding Muslim conquest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Muslim_conquests