[devwastaken]

Most software is made entirely free with no source of income. The job market for software is terrible, and those people work entirely seperate jobs from it. Many program on a very minimum life expenditure.

[jariel]

"Most software is made entirely free with no source of income"

No. Most software that is actually used, is not made 'for free'.

[todd3834]

https://levels.fyi disagrees. I can confirm the offers on there are real

[trisiak]

That's very simplistic. Not everybody wants to work for US corporations or live in the US.

[todd3834]

Does that mean they automatically work for almost nothing? This is so different from what I’ve observed. I would love to see where people are getting this opinion from.

[vermilingua]

You replied to a claim about “most software” with a site that compares big tech companies, and only their US offices. The world is much bigger than your bubble.

[dang]

Please omit swipes like "your bubble" from HN comments. They're against the site guidelines because they degrade the container.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[vermilingua]

Fair, but what do you mean by “degrade the container”?

[dang]

I mean that they poison the conditions for community. Does that make sense?

[todd3834]

Do you have any data the counters what I’m saying? I know people in other countries don’t make the same salaries but they are “mostly” doing pretty well for their region

[jcelerier]

> I know people in other countries don’t make the same salaries but they are “mostly” doing pretty well for their region

here's some job postings for software engineer in Bordeaux, France: https://www.indeed.fr/Bordeaux-(33)-Emplois-Ingenieur-Inform...

It's around three times less.

[todd3834]

How does it compare to the local economy?

[ShawnCleverdon]

>Do you have any data the counters what I’m saying?

Prove me wrong is bad argumentation.

>I know people in other countries don’t make the same salaries but they are “mostly” doing pretty well for their region.

The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. Do you have any data to backup your claim?

[todd3834]

I gave some proof and I’m speaking from experience. I grant that my perspective my be biased so if there is any data to the contrary then I would love to be enlightened. My goal isn’t to point out if someone is wrong for the sake of it, I hope to teach, learn or both. This was such a shocking revelation to me that I was hoping for some data.