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by tpnCC 2116 days ago
"The High annual death toll" is most likely not as HIGH coz the numbers your hear about FLU fatalities are Statistical estimates, unlike that of Covid fatalities. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/comparing-...

I'm not sure of Human societies operating 'just fine' with the risk of flu. We seem to operate just fine NOW because we make vaccines for the flu every year, and we have several years of experience in terms of Herd Immunity and Medical assistance.

We also do not have medical personnel dying in hundreds from flu every year as they catch it in line of service.

And the baseline of flu u refer to DID NOT HELP much with predicting or managing clots in almost every major organ when it comes to COVID. Sure, we have blood thinners etc. But when u hear from frontline workers in hospitals, the situation with clots is pretty dire. And this is a much bigger deal and the overlap with flu is very little, even in patients tht may seem to have recovered frm Covid. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/health/coronavirus-stroke...

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Influenza vaccines only started to become available in the 1940s. Are you claiming that human society didn't operate before that?

Influenza also increases the risk of blood clots and ischemia. So SARS-CoV-2 is nothing new in that regard, although the effects appear to be more severe.

https://vascular.org/news-advocacy/jvs-report-swine-flu-and-...

I'm claiming the high death toll u seem to think of when talking of Flu fatalities ain't that high.

And I provided some evidence for it.

I'm hoping people will not underestimate how serious Covid19 is by drawing parallels to THE NUMBER of yearly Flu fatalities, coz the number of flu fatalities are much less compared to what gets reported every year.

Thts what the SciAm link I provided talks about.

Societies operated WITH a lot of Caution and Precautions in place before the vaccines. They still operate with caution for flu DESPITE vaccines as they do not provide complete immunity.

Look at how people celebrate elimination of Wild polio in Africa! It came AFTER several decades of human suffering and wide ranging precautions.

And the level of caution changes depending on the local medical infrastructure, dynamics of the spread, demographics, and the specific knowledge we have about the disease in question.

I also claimed that WE HAVE SOME IDEA on how to deal with blood clotting wen it comes to Flu. Your link itself shows that out right "Emperic Anticoagulation decreases VTE"

But we are not there yet, when it comes to Covid19.

We have people dying from strokes AFTER they were thought to have recovered from Covid. And these aren't necessarily 'edge cases' that arise from the tail end of large numbers of patients during a pandemic.

These are most likely due to absence of knowledge,data and insights into managing a novel disease. Just read through the NYTimes article. It's very detailed and specific about how we are falling short NOW in dealing with strokes and clots.

Which most likely is also true when it comes to predicting and managing long-term effects due to Covid, as indicated by these experiences of Covid 'long haulers' https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/08/long-haul...