[paulirwin]

I assume you're being downvoted because of the terms you're using, but you're not wrong.

Extra class licensee here. On phone (Single Sideband "SSB" or FM typically, for those not familiar with the terminology, where you use radio for voice rather than data/Morse) I've heard all kinds of absolutely reprehensible things. In one single conversation where a man was ranting about mask mandates, he managed to throw in derogatory use of the word "retarded," toxic masculinity insults, homophobia (including equating it to bestiality), racist innuendo, and even a call to arms to kill our governor if they wouldn't stop this mask mandate. Myself and others tried to temper the conversation and return to civility, but they wouldn't have it. It's one thing when people say these things in two-way conversations on HF, with lots of frequencies available to change to if you don't like what you hear. It's another when it's on the local FM repeater with a single frequency shared by thousands of people.

In order for amateur radio to thrive, it needs to be a welcoming and inclusive place to everyone. Young scouts - children! - of all genders, races, and backgrounds are learning ham radio and tuning into their local repeaters or working HF. I can't imagine what they or their parents thought if they happened to be listening in at that moment. Hams need to all be good to each other, and keep the negativity, insults, bigotry, and politics for your social media pages. Let's get back to talking about propagation, antennas, RFI in the shack, debating FT8, doing emergency prep, or even just discussing the weather.

[m0xte]

You want to hear some of the crap I hear on 2m in London UK. I dumped my HT in the end so I don’t get annoyed.

CW and FT8 are generally best if you don’t want to deal with that sort. CW is much harder to put the effort in to be a dick and FT8 doesn’t have being a dick built into the protocol.

[paulirwin]

I love FT8/FT4. It's a safe place for introverts and those turned off by the vitriol on phone to experiment with propagation and get awards. But I want phone to be a safe place, too.

[m0xte]

Completely agree. Perhaps we should get on air and outnumber them :)

[riffic]

Radio is public. These people need to be named and shamed.

An automated system for recording and archiving these public transmissions with their call signs attached as tags would probably be a good first step.

[bityard]

That's an understandable reaction but it's the wrong one.

People like that say the things they say for the attention it attracts to them. They are not ashamed of their dumbass bigoted opinions otherwise they wouldn't be transmitting halfway around the world in the clear. If you engage them in any way, even to try to shame them, you have already given them what they want. They are the trolls of amateur radio.

The right thing to do is what most of us hams do: spin the dial and find someone more pleasant to talk to.

[riffic]

There was a good thread on reddit about this recently and I firmly agree with this comment about how useless "spin the dial" is:

https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/iatqth/a_lot_...

social ostracization and penalty has its time and place, and this is one of those occasions. Same reason cars have number plates.

[jimhefferon]

I hear you, but the flip side is that this is a hobby. I did not get in it to get mad.

[riffic]

not mad at all. My take is that radio is not an ephemeral medium. These transmissions can be slurped down by an SDR, recorded, stored, analyzed, tagged, fingerprinted, indexed, et cetera. By keying up you are effectively making a statement of public record.

At the moment there isn't a financial incentive to perform this at any reasonable scale, but this doesn't mean that it can't be done at all.

[monksy]

This is a very extreme and authoritarian response to a very vocal minority. Who decides what isn't "compliant" with the rules you want to shame them for?

[redwall_hp]

You already have to drop your call letters every few minutes while you're on-air, by FCC regulation. HAM radio transmissions are also subject to FCC restrictions on "obscene or indecent" language.

If it crosses the line where it wouldn't be allowed on over-the-air TV, it's not allowed on HAM radio spectrum. You can report it, and with evidence it can lead to nasty fines and/or revocation of license.

[monksy]

Yes. There are different people with vastly different values out there.

> Myself and others tried to temper the conversation and return to civility, but they wouldn't have it.

You're feeding into their behavior. IMO We're seeing a huge conflict in culture: one side that is authoritarian against unpleasant language and the other that doesn't accept that (or the suggested changed). (That's a very simplified view of it)