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by wycy 2124 days ago
I think it's a bit unfair to blame him for the unemployment rate having gotten so high, but it is fair to blame him for how long it has lasted. If he'd shown the tiniest bit of competent leadership through the pandemic, we could have locked down for 2 months, suffered the high unemployment, and then largely gotten back to normalcy(+masks) by now. Most jobs could have come back, especially if we had done something like furloughs like the UK did. Instead, it got completely out of control entirely due to his incompetence.

Unemployment being higher in locked down states makes sense. But the flipside of that statistic is that daily deaths in red states are reaching new peaks now while they've flatlined to lows in blue states.
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logicchains 2124 days ago
>If he'd shown the tiniest bit of competent leadership through the pandemic, we could have locked down for 2 months, suffered the high unemployment, and then largely gotten back to normalcy(+masks) by now.

Then why haven't the Blue states that have been locked down for months gotten back to normalcy? Like California and New York? Why hasn't Melbourne gotten back to normalcy? Almost nowhere that prevented a first wave by shutting down has managed to avoid a second wave.

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take_a_breath 2124 days ago
Oddly, you failed to mention all of Europe. they have a lower unemployment rate than the US [1].

[1] https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/unemployment-rate-in-eu-ris...

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logicchains 2124 days ago
Looks like from your link it's 7.1%. For the no lockdown states on https://www.aier.org/article/unemployment-far-worse-in-lockd..., it's around 6%.
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wycy 2124 days ago
A single percentage point difference in unemployment data versus versus thousands of deaths. And comparing dense European countries to rural red states. Your data is devastating to your point.
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take_a_breath 2124 days ago
The data you are giving is from early-May, it’s almost September.
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wycy 2124 days ago
Blue states can't go back to normalcy since diseased red staters can still travel freely within the country and ruin it all over again. Also because Americans are too stubborn to mask up for the privilege of normalcy.

Places like Australia have gone back to normalcy(+masks) now. Japan can pack a train full of people(+masks).

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ghostwriter 2124 days ago
> Blue states can't go back to normalcy since diseased red staters can still travel freely within the country and ruin it all over again.

Yeah, because everyone flocks into NY and CA nowadays, and it's not the other way around.

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