[sunseb]

It's funny how the media are saying this kid defending himself from the violent mob is the devil for using self-defense and protecting the city, but at the same time Jacob Blake (who was charged with sexual assault and had a long history of violence) is an angel. We are living 1984. The truth is the opposite of what we are being told. All values are inverted.

[mcphage]

Nobody’s calling him an angel, but unlike the guy you’re praising, he wasn’t a murderer.

[nailer]

What part of this would you consider murder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbsOIoqcit4

[happytoexplain]

The criticism focuses on his actions as a whole, the crowd's, his motivations, and the people praising the killing. Which legal charges stick and which do not are interesting, but using them as a stand-in for morality is a common fallacy employed in irrational political side-taking.

[nailer]

> Which legal charges stick and which do not are interesting, but using them as a stand-in for morality is a common fallacy employed in irrational political side-taking.

Agreed, but morality is in lock step with the law here: the result of the attacks is the moral responsibility of the attackers. Which know isn't Kyle, because we have video evidence from multiple angles of all three attacks.

[mcphage]

The part where he took a gun he doesn’t legally own, drove to another state, and inserted himself into a tense situation because he was itching to shoot someone.

[nailer]

He drove 20 minutes. His attackers may have driven for even longer. The law around the long gun is true though, he should have used a handgun for protection.

[mcphage]

I could drive 20 minutes and be in Canada, but if I did that and committed several crimes like he did, the fact that I was only 20 minutes from home wouldn’t help me any. And if it looks like I drove those 20 minutes in order to commit a crime, like he did, it would be even worse.

(Used to be able to drive 20 minutes, of course, since Canada won’t let me cross the border for a while)