[eneveu]

That's interesting. I definitely need to check Groovy out. Plus, the lead developer is a fellow French, so there is one more reason to try it ;)

I agree with your views regarding Scala. It's a really interesting language with a ton of cool concepts, but I fear it might be "too powerful" for the "standard entreprise Java programmers". Java is good, because it is simple. With Scala, you use different paradigms, which might be harder to grasp. It's easier to shoot yourself in the foot / write complicated code. But I guess that's the price to pay for using a high level programming language?

Here is Martin Odersky's take on this debate: http://lamp.epfl.ch/~odersky/blogs/isscalacomplex.html

Gosu also looks interesting as a Groovy contender, though you won't like it, since it dilutes the alternative JVM languages even more ;) http://gosu-lang.org/ http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1881924