[yters]

also a lot of the riotets are young, upper middle class, white males

what says black lives matter better than trashing their neighborhoods?

read ellison's invisible man written in 1950s to see how long white people have been exploiting African Americans in this way!

[dragonwriter]

A number that have been caught actually rioting are white supremacists seeking to provoke a race war, and at least some caught encouraging it online (haven't seen any caught actually rioting)have been specifically police officers that are also white supremacists seeking to provoke a race war.

[AnimalMuppet]

I'd like to see some sources for this claim. It's not impossible, and it would even make some sense, but... evidence?

[Edit: Even harder: There's a difference between "it happened, but rarely" and "it's responsible for the majority of the cases". If it happens, how often does it happen?]

[yters]

just look at any photos of the protests and count the white to black ratio

if those are all far righters white rioters, this is even more confusing!!!

plot twist, they are actually anti fa claiming to be alt right and start a race war so there is more police brutality and there is more evidence to call for defunding police !$$!

[dragonwriter]

> just look at any photos of the protests

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> if those are all far righters white rioters

1. You are falsely drawing an equivalence between protesters and rioters; they aren't identical groups.

2. I never said all the rioters were white supremacist provocateurs, just that a number of the roots that have been arrested, and some of the online encouragers, have turned out to be (and, in the latter case, specifically also law enforcement officers.)

[yters]

so you are claiming majority of the rioting is by alt right and law enforcement? i am very interested to see you substantiate that claim

i attended one blm march in my town and it was mostly (almost entirely) white, and the most active participants seemed to be mostly white non local college kids, who gave no indication of being alt right

the organizers were also predominantly white, some seemed very experienced with this sort of thing (and pretty elderly)

i cannot help but draw comparisons with ellison's book

it also seemed to be mostly organized as a photo op, and had us spend most of our time marching around an abandoned high school, with perhaps a few minutes along a main road which is when some participants spent their time taking pics and filming

i personally was highly disappointed with the march, and do not see how it can bring about greatly needed local change in the most racist county in my state

[dragonwriter]

> so you are claiming majority of the rioting is by alt right and law enforcement?

Am I? I don't see the word “majority” or any synonym used in my description.

The point of provocateurs isn't normally to numerically dominate.

[yters]

what is your point? what are you trying to say in response to my original claim?