[iateanapple]

> “You just don't know how things used to be before the police", which I think really misses what people are asking for ie: redistribution of grossly overbudgeted police departments to preventative

Or more likely they don’t think preventative measures work as well as you think they do.

Edit: Once you have seen acts of senseless violence - real cruel stuff - it is hard to believe that some people can be reliably rehabilitated.

Maybe that cruelty could have been nipped in the bud if they had received better care in the past - but that’s not a risk I would take with my community.

[Klathmon]

> Once you have seen acts of senseless violence - real cruel stuff - it is hard to believe that some people can be reliably rehabilitated.

It's ironic that this is exactly how many feel about the police themselves.

[teucris]

Focusing on the rare cruel cases has meant we aren’t funding preventive measures which could prevent the vast majority of other crime.

[iateanapple]

> which could prevent the vast majority of other crime.

Could it?

California is one of the richest places on earth and has an incredibly progressive population.

So “we” have the desire and the money - and have for at least 20 years - and yet we have more violent crime than much poorer places.