[kelnos]

I imagine I'm atypical, but if I had to drive somewhere to pick up my online orders, my monthly car trips would go up between one and two orders of magnitude. But I do order a decent quantity of things on Amazon (for non-urgent things I use the "Amazon day" delivery option to help reduce their trips), and generally dislike driving and try to drive as little as possible (1-3 trips per week; pre-covid I could go weeks without driving).

I'd be curious to know what the environmental numbers are for someone like me.

[abdullahkhalids]

You are not accounting for behavior change. Before the online ordering era, most people never went non-grocery shopping more than once a month. And did all that shopping in one big trip.

Once you think decide that all highly environmentally-destructive actions are not even an option on the table, your behavior changes.

[kelnos]

That's a good point. Non-grocery items were a special trip, were rare, and usually involved months worth of purchases.