[shmel]

Are you genuinely surprised at this point? Pretty much all big tech companies were caught outright lying about user data collection. Why would you assume by default they don't try to get as much as possible? They are all based on ML, of course they do.

A year or two ago Amazon was swearing that humans don't listen to Alexa conversations until we learned they actually do. IIRC Amazon tried to backpedal: "of course they do, it is their job, we meant humans don't listen _for fun_".

At this point just assume the internet connectivity as such a warning.

[charles_f]

> Pretty much all big tech companies were caught outright lying about user data collection.

You can strip the big here.

[neiman]

Of course I'm not surprised, but I refuse to accept this as normal.

[TedDoesntTalk]

But your refusal doesn’t change the reality.

Kinda like refusing to believe that climate change is real does not change the reality.

[neiman]

What? I didn't say I don't recognize the reality. I said I don't accept it as normal, meaning I work trying to change it.