[theg5prank]

> My point was what I said: you can have your cake and eat it too. You claimed the issue was due to a lack of a super keyword and I showed you it would not occur even if C++ had super.

I made no such claim. I said (in my opinion) C++ doesn't have the issue you're raising with Python because it has a completely different design that doesn't attempt to solve diamond problems in superclass attribute lookup. Are we not in agreement?

> I "brought it up" to illustrate it does one particular thing better than Python. Not to claim it does everything better than Python. If you want a simple, beginner-friendly language, avoid C++ like the plague.

You can validly think that C++'s choice here is better. I don't think there's a counterargument to personal preference here. My point was that it does not solve all of the problems Python's super builtin is designed to. And that's fine! It avoids the issue in question! I actually don't understand what you are arguing with here. Personally I think the design goals here are just so wildly different that I don't have a preference, but I admit that's kind of a cop-out.

> Idk, for starters maybe produce a warning when multiple inheritance occurs and one of the __init__s in the hierarchy doesn't call super().__init__.

In general I think having more "warning labels" on multiple inheritance is the right idea, if a language is going to persist in offering it at all. I think this would be a good start, especially for a linter.