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If you'd understand security is a property of all features you'd understand that Telegram lacks even basic features like group chats and cross-platform chats. From that viewpoint Telegram is outright dangerous to use: it leaks a metric fuckton of private data to server from where it's abusable both by Durov (who might run out of money) and by anyone who hacks the server (like Belarussian intelligence establishment). I'm one of those S-advocates and I'm here for a real reason.

Also, Signal is getting those features, at slower pace sure because it's not trivial to do things securely, but at least there's zero technical debt compared to Telegram, who can't suddenly drop all insecure features, nor implement E2EE without starting basically from scratch.

Maybe if Telegram provided the security Signal does you wouldn't have concerned people telling about Signal ;)