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by maqp 2129 days ago
The protocol and all Telegram is open source.

The open source Telegram client tells us

1. That E2EE is not enabled by default

2. That E2EE is not available at all for group chats

3. That E2EE is not available at all for desktop clients.

So just. No.

"Are you a cryptographer?"

Here's the world's most famous cryptographer, Bruce Schneier saying don't use Telegram: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/06/comparing_mes...

Here's the world's second most famous cryptographer, Matthew Green saying don't use Telegram https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/72642891296898252...

Now show me the cryptographer who recommends Telegram. You can't. Because there isn't _any_.

"And who "rolled" the Signal protocol, Moxie Marlinspike? Did he not design that himself?"

No, it was co-authored with Trevor Perrin[1] who is a cryptographer.

[1] https://twitter.com/trevp__

Telegram's encryption OTOH was designed by Nikolai Durov who is not a cryptographer, but a geometrician. That's like asking a gynecologist to perform brain surgery, lol.