[ThomPete]

You know there is a saying in the creative industry when project managers come knocking on your door.

"You want it know, or when it's done?"

My personal experience is that most deadlines are primarily perceptual.

[jdavid]

I think an under appreciated gift Apple has given the world is the patience to provide something when it's done, vs. possible.

[ThomPete]

Ohh Apple is on a completely different planet.

They follow the principle of "The best way to predict the future is to invent it"

so yes you are totally right about that.