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by codefreakxff 2131 days ago
It's called a Taxi. They will drive to your location, pick you up, and take you anywhere you want to go.
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You've clearly never tried to use a taxi in California.
For the majority who haven't tried to use taxis in California, what's the informative version of this comment?
> They will drive to your location, pick you up, and take you anywhere you want to go.

The corrected version of this is "they will drive to your location some time within the next 24 hours, pick you up if you want to go to the places they want to go, and maybe accept payment in credit card".

Go on. Ask a brown person who lives by Lake Merced what it's like to try to get a taxi there from downtown.

Also, to be clear, I don't have a problem with this. I think you should have a right to transport whomsoever you desire if you can reach a consensual agreement.

But I don't think it's consensual if you ban the alternative.

Taxis everywhere are expensive due to constricted supply and are often unreliable.

Man I could tell some stories about that.

Rideshares have their own cost and reliability problems for riders.

No one is saying taxi services are fine as-is, in addition to rideshare ride being artificially cheap thanks to VC money subsidizing costs, they did offer real user experience improvements. But the rideshare services have also shirked a lot of duties and created new externalized costs for others to bear.

> what's the informative version of this comment

Called out! But you're right, I should have been more specific.

I think it was covered well below: They are never around and have a low chance of coming if you call one, even if they say they are on the way.

Taxis sound way less reliable in the SF area than my experience with them in the Boston area.
I've only been to Boston a few times pre-Uber, but I agree. I've had great cab experiences in Boston and Chicago, and Manhattan (although in Manhattan they often pulled the "I can't take cards right now" crap).
If you live too out of the way, the taxi you called might never come.
Or anywhere, in my experience. I've never had a taxi experience that wasn't terrible. Even before Uber and Lyft came along. That includes several different cities.
In Ireland, Uber has never been allowed. Taxis are pretty good. We use an app called "Free Now" (Previously "MyTaxi", previously "Hailo") where we can book a taxi and pay through the app. It's more expensive than Uber but it's regulated so always feels pretty safe.

We also have some strict laws like a taxi must produce a receipt if you request one etc

I love these comments like "you've clearly never X".

I have, in fact, used Taxis in California. Is it easier to use Uber or Lyft? Yes. Is there absolutely no alternative as the commenter above suggests? No.

We can have a conversation around why the Taxi system sucks, if you'd like.

flywheel is 'OK'. Better than it used to be before flywheel.
Right, except now instead of having the option of taxis and ride share companies she can only use taxis which have artificially inflated prices due to constricted supply.
As opposed to rideshare which had artificially deflated prices due to a temporary infusion of investors money. Maybe push for more rational taxi regulations?
How did that go before Uber showed up?
The OP says they can't be profitable and you're saying they're too profitable at the rider's expense.

Which is it?

Taxis are subject to the medallion system where municipalities deliberately limit the number of taxis that can operate. This certainly increases prices for consumers. If Uber and Lyft aren't profitable the they run the possibility of going out of business.

The former is a definite harm to consumers. The latter is a possibility of loss for investors.

The OP says ridesharing can't be profitable, parent says taxis are too expensive. These are statements are not inconsistent with one another.
Taxis are horrible honestly. I'd rather just not go somewhere than use one instead of Uber/Lyft.
Most taxi's are 1099 as well... Almost 100% outside of the major cities. So no. This is going to backfire hard on the legislature. They should have done their jobs and created a new class. But nope. They went for the headlines.