[justchilly]

Said differently: "Reddit banned nearly 7,000 subreddits, but left alone the ones that contribute 82% of hate content."

That seems like a dismal result, practically an admission that many of the bans were unjustified and/or subs that should have been banned were not.

[Nitrolo]

Here's a post breaking down a few details of the ban wave:

https://www.reddit.com/r/redditsecurity/comments/idclo1/unde...

As you can see a big majority, over three quarters, of banned subreddits had less than ten users, and 99% had less than 5000 subscribers.

It's very possible that the other 82% are distributed over the larger, more popular subreddits which are not encouraging hate speech. As an example, if someone posted antisemitic content on r/dataisbeautiful, that might be counted towards those 82% but that is not a reason to ban the whole subreddit.

[bra-ket]

most of the popular subreddits encourage hate against police and Trump supporters, just see how much cheering you get when there is a video of BLM assaulting someone wearing MAGA hat, or a white "Karen" (typically middle-aged white woman) is humiliated or assaulted by mob, or an officer sprayed and blinded when arresting some looter.

These threads full of raging hate are reaching Reddit front page on regular basis, with tens of thousands of upvotes and tons of social "awards", while anything going against the social justice narrative is shut down immediately, like in that 18% ban which affected many dissenting subreddits.

There are popular subreddits literally encouraging racial segregation, like "BPT Country Club" which requires sending picture of your forearm to prove you're black in order to participate.

This kind of thing radicalizes people on both sides.

[bryal]

Right, because hating someone for being a jew and hating someone for being a racist are totally equivalent. Both sides are bad! Only us enlightened centrists realize that you have to take everything in moderation, and must both hate and accept jews and racists equally much!

[bra-ket]

the thing is 'racist' these days means 'you disagree with my opinion', it's just a meaningless label used to cancel people whose voice you want to suppress

if anything BLM propaganda combined with violence and unprecedented popular support really remind me the rise of these guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

they use the same bullying and intimidation tactics to grab political power

[piva00]

And you are parroting the arguments used against fascists trying to take power.

No, "racist" doesn't mean whoever disagree with an opinion, it might mean for you on the circles you take part and consider somewhat important enough in your life to let them impart that impression, racist just means what it has always meant: people that willingly or by ignorance use ethnicity (or race) as the basis for judging someone's else character, life situation and/or social status.

This hasn't changed and there are a lot of those out of the woodwork, if you are basing yourself out of Twitter then... Yeah, you are in a toxic place.

[marakv2]

No racist means what it always has. Discrimination due to race.

Racists are playing the blame card, and shifting the goals more now though.

[radegast]

Reading stuff like this really concerns me. If you go to /r/worldnews, /r/news or /r/politics, there is literally none pro-right content, and all the comments in existing posts are bashing the GOP/right/Trump/whatever.

I am not an EnLiGhTeNeD CeNtRiSt, I am not from the US at all. Its just weird to see the echo chamber reddit is, calling ALL the people protesting against BLM racists, nazis and what not. At the same time, they are celebrating BLM rioters looting and assaulting people they dont like, but its ok, because they are nazis and racists.

Dont even get me started on Toronto BLM chapter founder saying "White skin is subhuman" - https://twitter.com/therealmissjo/status/966347556304367618 or Bill de Blasio quoting Guevara's "hasta la victoria siempre" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqS1nZkB9sg .

Now why I am concerned. Some people on reddit are calling for forceful disbandment of the GOP. Guys - having just prominent 2 political parties is bad enough already. Reducing that number to 1 is a bad idea IMO.

"But the Democrats are sensible and smart unlike those racist Republicans!"... I wonder where this slippery slope ends. I am sure there's nothing good at the end of it though.

[mundo]

The problem with whataboutism in this context is not that it presents a false equivalence, although it does, or that your examples are exaggerated, though they are. It's that it presupposes that Reddit rules are an attempt to enforce justice, as opposed to make money on a website.

It so happens that, in this time in history, posting "I don't like X people" leads to vitriolic arguments and Why Reddit is Evil long-form essays in the Atlantic where X=black, but is largely ignored where X=white. If you think that's unfair, fine, I can see the reasoning, but I think you have to take it up with the society that produces that outcome. Reddit just wants a forum for people to talk about sports and TV shows and boats and look at ads for same.

[laurent92]

Very true and interesting twist of fate. I find it amusing that any group becomes very good in science only once they’re under attack. See Galileo: They defined the scientific process when they were under bigoted criticism.

In fact, the best way to ensure that a group who’s right makes an excellent demonstration of their correctness, is to censor them and tell them they’re wrong. That is how we get incredible advances of science. And that is also how huge totems become mainstream. Think « Winnie the Poo » in China, or the « 13% » number in USA.

[tomlagier]

I think it just depends on the number of subreddits. If 7,000 is 1% of subs, then it seems like a good investment. If it's 30%, then yeah, that's.. not great.

[gruez]

>I think it just depends on the number of subreddits

the number of subreddits shouldn't matter, what actually should matter is post volume.

[sukilot]

View volume.

[pietrovismara]

The last bunch of bans was simply a leftist purge, banning several subreddits that at most advocated violence against landlords, not really a "minority".

[Someone1234]

Calls for violence have been against Reddit's policy forever, and is also often illegal. It has nothing to do with minority status.

[meowface]

>that at most advocated violence against [...]

Are we really doing this?

[john-shaffer]

How are landlords not a minority? Are 50% of people landlords? (Asking seriously - I don't understand what definition of minority is being used here.)

[thunkpad]

Back to coded language to express frustration we go...