[oblio]

Germany has 9000 fatalities with 81 million people. If we extrapolate the US should have maybe 40000. And Germany has basically open borders with 10 countries directly and with about 30 through Schengen. And a much higher population density.

[me_me_me]

I think that is much better comparison than New Zealand.

Though there is one massive difference Germans hate having freedom and are not willing to die for it from Covid.

On a more serious note, this looks like a symptom of some fundamental crack in a fabric of US/UK etc societies where the baseline trust is almost non-existant (towards government, science, institutions).

[threeseed]

Does the US have open borders with 30 countries ? Or is it just 2 which are closed.

And the behaviour of people in societies are determined by (a) leadership and (b) policies of the various levels of government. That is where the US clearly has failed.