[bakuninsbart]

> The issue is that nobody is entitled to anything.

That's an ideological statement. You may subscribe to it, but not everyone has to. Society is fundamentally based on the notion of shared rights and duties, what these rights and duties entail can be up for debate, but if you don't want to owe anyone, you will have to live a pretty lonely, primitive existance in Siberia or Alaska.

[robotresearcher]

Ironic choice of hermitage, since if you live in Alaska, you're entitled to free money from a communal fund.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Permanent_Fund

[dependenttypes]

> a pretty lonely

Nowadays with the internet one does not need to be lonely even if they are away from society.

In addition others might decide to follow them.

> primitive existance in Siberia or Alaska.

This does not make much sense. Why would living somewhere else automatically give them any duties?

Anyway, I do not see the point of this argument. It is like saying to a gay person "if you don't want to be discriminated by anyone, you will have to live a pretty lonely, primitive existance in Siberia or Alaska."

[frenchyatwork]

> Nowadays with the internet one does not need to be lonely even if they are away from society.

How are you going to pay for the internet? If you want to operate with state currency, you need to abide by the rules of the state. Render unto Caesar ...

Edit: I suppose you could try doing it with bitcoin. Best of luck if you try!

[dependenttypes]

Guess we have to give up on trying to protect our freedoms. After all living alone is bad, right?

Time to forget all the issues regarding privacy too, after all in order to not be tracked by facebook we have to live in siberia.

[kevin_b_er]

And the end result is the lack of a right to life. For life requires sustenance. And if there's too few with all the resources, you are denied the right to life.

As a result, I can consider a libertarian to be genocidal. For they would be mostly fine with a Holodomor.