[SmirthsDAC]

Organic and sustainable methods are more efficient, even without GMOs [1]. It is a myth that GMOs or high-tech is the answer to food production/land scarcity concerns, as simply managing a farm properly can lead to yield increases multiple times over conventional, unsustainable methods (annual tillage, broad spectrum pesticides, etc). This is in part because GMOs that are in wide use are little more than ways to deal with pests or herbicides, which high efficiency sustainable farms deal with much more cost-effectively anyway.

[1] https://www.greenbiz.com/article/how-mini-farms-can-yield-fo...

[rdtwo]

No they aren’t. Organic for the most part is a myth. What they do is either spray with a pesticide that can be classified as organic (often nicotine derived) or create an island of organic surrounded by a conventional buffer. Often both.

[SmirthsDAC]

>> Organic for the most part is a myth. What they do is either spray with a pesticide that can be classified as organic

That's demonstrably untrue. Many organic methods use no pesticides at all because they use things like row covers or greenhouses which replaces them, or crop-timing to avoid source pests. Look at any farm inspired by Eliot Coleman methods, which can produce crops cost-competitively with conventional agriculture.

[rdtwo]

Some boutique farms for farmers markets can do that, the organic shit you get at Safeway is just organic pesticides

[jamil7]

> Organic for the most part is a myth

This is not really true, I think the problem is every country has a different definition and standards, sometimes multiple.