[kelnos]

> We choose Intel CPUs that do not have vPro

The Wikipedia article they link about vPro says:

> Intel vPro technology ... [includes] VT-x, VT-d...

Does this mean that Purism hardware won't support virtualization extensions? Seems like that would be a big downside, and would make it a non-starter for a lot of people (including myself).

[sukilot]

You have dig past the marketing labels and into the actual specs. Some CPUs have VT-x but not vPro

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/149091/...

[floatboth]

where "some" means pretty much all consumer CPUs.

[Godel_unicode]

That's absolutely not true, there are a ton of modern consumer CPUs with vpro. Here's a comparison of the 10500 through the 10900{,k}, all of which have vpro. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?pro...

Here's the more complete list of Core processors which have vpro platform eligibility. It's quite long. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/search/featurefi...

[rzzzt]

The second sentence on Wikipedia says: When the vPro brand was launched (circa 2007), it was identified primarily with AMT, thus some journalists still consider AMT to be the essence of vPro.

(They have also added a small asterisk to the Purism article to clarify - I'm also just reading it now so don't know if it was there before)

[fsflover]

Qubes OS, which requires VT-d, works flawlessly on my Librem 15, so virtualization is there.

[yencabulator]

vPro is a marketing label that can be applied to CPUs with all of the enumerated features. Those features can be present without having all of them present.

Also, Intel sucks at marketing.