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by raverbashing 2139 days ago
Density blocks radiation but it's the "hard way" of doing it

It's better to have something that resonates in the frequencies you want to block.

Given that melanin already works in the UV range it's not surprising that maybe with some changes it works with higher frequencies (though not too trivial neither because of the way quantum physics work)

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I work in ionizing radiation transport. We use materials with high electron densities to shield gamma rays. Should we be using a material that "resonates" with gamma rays instead? If so could you provide an example of this working on gamma rays?
I down voted your comment, here is why.

Working in transporting this material I'd gather you'd have expertise related to this.

Could you better explain why the existing approach is used?Can you counter the arguments made by what you're replying on? Is your comment providing value or information to who you're replying to?

Thank you for explaining!

Gamma rays interact with atomic electrons and get slowed down via the photoelectric effect, compton scattering, and pair production [1]. Depending on the energy of the gamma ray, different fractions of those interactions will dominate. The ones that matter most for most ionizing gamma rays we encounter work better if there are more electrons packed in. So we use high density materials like lead because they have lots of electrons to stop gamma rays.

No where on this list of tools have I ever seen "materials that resonate with the radiation" so I'm just asking what the heck kind of radiation shielding physical effect is being referred to.

[1] https://fas.org/sgp/othergov/doe/lanl/lib-www/la-pubs/003263...

You are right of course, but the effects you're describing are kind of what I meant

Yes, I don't think there is a magic material that will perfectly resonate with high energy gamma rays. But evolution might be able to figure it out. Maybe "resonance" is more specific, and "interaction" is better.

My criticism was more to the " you need thick material to stop radiation" whereas the answer is more "we need thick material because that's the best material we know for the job". Glass is opaque to UV which is more energetic than visible light for example.

And not to forget we know if some materials that do absorb gamma rays, the issue is that they like to go boom after doing that https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photofission

Just quick response on the last point: Photofission reactions happen all the time in places like nuclear reactors. There are no materials that I'm aware of that photofission explosively. The photofission reactions are generally very rare compared to all the other reactions. Heck, natural uranium in your kitchen counter spontaneously fissions all the time but that doesn't lead to an explosion because 1 million atoms is a lot less than 1e23 atoms. Am I missing something?
Agree, go boom is a bit of an exaggeration, I meant that you probably don't want materials that undergo fission while absorbing your radiation