[FlyingSnake]

Sigh. Looks like Mozilla management hasn’t been able to sense the zeitgeist, after their latest downsizing, so let me spell it out for them:

Dear Moz://a management: Everyone is already on board with your ideals of open Internet. What you need to do is get your house in order and focus on your core competency i.e. the web browser and related tooling. You won’t get a seat at the table of Internet biggies if you’re a has been entity.

[djaychela]

> Everyone is already on board with your ideals of open Internet.

I don't think that's the case. Increasingly content is being placed in walled gardens which you don't get full access to that content unless you have an account. Google is still pushing AMP. Chrome is becoming the new IE, and sites that 'work best' or only work with Chrome are not uncommon. Those (and many other) factors don't indicate to me that everyone is on board with the ideal of an open Internet.

[aravindet]

I think most people can (and do) agree with these ideals stated in the abstract, but still do things that violate them in their jobs / real life because of practical considerations such as pursuing a profit.

Not unlike how most people understand the dangers of climate change, but continue to drive cars, fly, use air conditioning etc.

Or, stated another way, we are all hypocrites to some extent.

[TeMPOraL]

Or, stated yet another way, we all suck at coordinating. It's a problem with our species. If something that requires self-sacrifice starts yielding value only after everyone (or majority) does it, it simply doesn't happen, not spontaneously.

The history of human civilization - of governments, religions and movements, of gangs and corporations and worker unions - can be seen as attempts to surmount our inability to coordinate at scale. Laws, shared beliefs and ideologies, shunning, taboos, money - they're all tools for creating and maintaining coordination in large groups.

A classic essay on that topic: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/.

[yosito]

Or, stated another way, it's the tragedy of the commons.

[vijaybritto]

> Chrome is becoming the new IE, and sites that 'work best' or only work with Chrome are not uncommon.

I think this has a lot to do with the amazing devtools in Chrome.

[freshsqueeze]

moz management is how they got here in the first place. They hire through nepotism and pay themselves lavish salaries. No incentive but to just coast and keep calling themselves fighters of systemic racism and freedom saviors of the internet.