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I am convinced that Q, if not started, was quickly taken over and turned into a Russian psyop. I expected the Mueller report to validate this (gross online astroturfing campaigns by state actors), but unless it is in the redacted parts, it is not there. But even casually investigating banned Twitter accounts used for Russian propaganda, you see a lot of clear connections with the "totally organic" Christian MAGA Qanon soccer mom accounts.

Leaves me mere speculation: I believe Q was initially conceived in case Trump had lost the election. It was to be a group of useful idiots/unwitting agents protesting about the "rigged" election, maybe even riled up to the point of taking up arms. Then when Trump won it was repurposed to sow disinformation about child sacrifice and child porn rings by the elite democrats. 9/11 saw the same thing: Massive efforts by Russia and Middle Eastern countries to seed inside job conspiracy theories. With the result that many Americans now believe 9/11 was an inside job, and can't really trust their government anymore (social cohesion damaged).

I believe some of these unwitting agents are so impressionable and gullible, that they can be made to act as "manchurian candidates", doing the bidding of foreign intelligence agencies (spreading propaganda, muddying the waters with disinformation and conspiracy, picking up a gun and going out to free children from a basement of a pizza parlor). I believe these intel agencies are able to infiltrate grassroots movements and subvert their ideals to be hostile to their host countries. I believe these agencies are able to create fake online realities, where unwitting agents are made to be believe they are part of something big, and everyone agrees with them, while they are psychologically manipulated.

[dogman144]

> I believe these intel agencies are able to infiltrate grassroots movements

Yeah this happened, per Mueller. Very large BLM Facebook group that organized rallies is an example.

I previously thought most of the psyops efforts were lower level IRA trolling, per what was in un-redacted Mueller.

Digging into some of the private sector threat intel reports around semi-attributed campaigns (see the link), there's evidence that more deliberate operations are occurring.

Most of those complex campaigns I read seemed focused on border states between Great Powers, and CONUS campaigns focused on sowing nonsense, chaos and mucking up comms channels. But I guess it's no large feat, beyond boldness, to employ something with more structured narrative inside the CONUS digital sphere of influence.

I mean "of course this is a thing that happens," but it's still a seriously interesting read on paper, it could easily be employed in the US, and it's pretty bold to do.

[carry_bit]

> I believe Q was initially conceived in case Trump had lost the election

When would've that been? The first "drop" by Q happened on October 28, 2017.

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Before the elections, when Putin thought that Trump would lose, and influence campaigns were designed to promote him as a detractor and divider, calling out the rigged elections and the deep state swamp. With Roger Stone laundering Russian "opposition research", like he did with Wikileaks, at that time a front for Russian intelligence.

4Chan has been very involved with these intelligence ARGs since after Project Chanology. Pedowood morphed into Pizzagate. "Seth Rich murder" was pushed hard on 4Chan, to detract from the fact that the Russians hacked the democrats. And it works: Instead of being insulted and angry that a foreign nation state so polutes the brains of your country and riles up the population to the level of riots and extreme polarization, some like to think that Hillary had Seth Rich assassinated for leaking. With so much smoke, who knows what to think? All the while you see artificial KONY2012-style meme campaigns accusing Mueller of being a deep state fixer, synced on Twitter, Facebook, and 4chan.