[cattlefarmer]

I don't mean this as a joke, but I thought people generally hated car salesmen?

Here in Japan, the manufacturers do actually set a recommended retail price that is slightly higher that what dealers often sell at. Example using the Subaru Outback mentioned up top, shows three available grades sold starting at 3,410,000yen. Roughly us$30k.

https://members.subaru.jp/estimate_simulation/index.html?car...

[fountainofage]

They hate car salesmen, yes. But oddly enough "Family Jones Chevrolet/Ford/Toyota/Nissan/etc." has been sponsoring the local little league team for 20 years, so they don't have to do much to convince the locals to tell their state legislators that "protecting" these "family-owned" dealerships is good.