[justanotheranon]

https://theintercept.com/2016/08/19/the-nsa-was-hacked-snowd...

there is proof that NSA has been mass hacking WiFi since at least 2005. that batch of Snowden leaks came out one week after the Shadowbroker's first leak.

NSA programs SECONDDATE and BADDECISION were used to mass hack into WiFi routers in Iraq in 2005-2007. note the slides say NSA breached the WiFi routers of EVERY INTERNET CAFE IN IRAQ. that is the Collect-It-All scale we expect from NSA.

also note, NSA did this FROM THE SKY! SECONDDATE is a sensor installed in Cessna and low flying planes. NSA flew over every WiFi hotspot of every Internet cafe in Iraq and deployed the BADDECISION exploit to install implants on the WiFi routers to then mass surveil everyone.

no futher leaks about BADDECISION have come out. we dont know if it is a protocol attack or crypto exploit. we dont know if WiFi is still vulnerable to BADDECISION.

how much do you want to bet that NSA only used SECONDDATE and BADDECISION in Iraq and NOT back here at home in America?

how much would you bet that NSA is NOT bulk hacking WiFi routers of ENTIRE US CITIES FROM THE AIR?

consider how much cheaper and easier that would be now in 2020 compared to 2005?

[ciarannolan]

Interesting article, but I think you're way over drawing your conclusions.

> how much would you bet that NSA is NOT bulk hacking WiFi routers of ENTIRE US CITIES FROM THE AIR?

I would bet very good money that they are not doing this. If SECONDDATE has been around since 2005, and they are bulk installing it on millions of routers in the US, where are the people coming out saying "I found some NSA shit on my router"? Is there a _single_ example to support this?

[justanotheranon]

are you so sure about that?

https://m.startribune.com/mystery-surveillance-plane-that-ci...

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/06/02/secret-aerial-fbi-...

since at least 2014, the FBI has a secret air force of over 100 planes that fly constant circles over the biggest US cities.

what do you think FBI is doing? joy riding?

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/03/new-foia-documents-con...

those FBI planes are equipped with DRTBOX's--cell site simulators and wifi interception sensors.

in the TAO ANT Catalogue leaked by Snowden, it shows NSA SECONDDATE is manufactured by Harris.

Harris also makes DRTBOX, and Stingray.

wanna bet FBI is using DRTBOX in exactly the same way NSA used it in Iraq? wanna bet NSA is actually helping FBI run this little domestic program?

why would NSA and FBI surveill all US cities from the sky? because you dont need a warrant or even a subpoena. "reading the air" is free--it's public space with no expectation of privacy. and radio signals you emit through your phone or wifi router are also public space.

but what is FBI and NSA's endgame to run a real-time monitoring program over US cities?

back in 2004-2008 in Iraq, the Pentagon deployed something called GORGON STARE. it stiched together the video feeds from all drones and jets and satellites into a composite video watching entire cities.

https://longreads.com/2019/06/21/nothing-kept-me-up-at-night...

Gorgon Stare has come home to roost.

[ciarannolan]

Again, your original claim:

> Anyone on WiFi AC or up are backdoored right now by NSA. All of them are compromised, no doubt in my mind. All the LTE. All the x86 hardware on the market. All of it.

Still _zero_ evidence of any of this. Why not post some?

You also ignore questions like..

> If SECONDDATE has been around since 2005, and they are bulk installing it on millions of routers in the US, where are the people coming out saying "I found some NSA shit on my router"? Is there a _single_ example to support this?

> Just this week a 20GB dump of private Intel source was dumped with backdoors included. > That's the sort of thing that's going to happen again with the newly published Intel backdoors. >> This is not even remotely true. You have to read more than just the headlines.

> If SECONDDATE has been around since 2005, and they are bulk installing it on millions of routers in the US, where are the people coming out saying "I found some NSA shit on my router"? Is there a _single_ example to support this?