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by bicepjai 2141 days ago
I am trying to use dstack on my device and it still asked for a login information, which prompted me to read the terms and under "User Content" I notice this

``` You hereby grant to Company an irreversible, nonexclusive, royalty-free and fully paid, worldwide license to reproduce, distribute, publicly display and perform, prepare derivative works of, incorporate into other works, and otherwise use and exploit your User Content, and to grant sublicenses of the foregoing rights, solely for the purposes of including your User Content in the Site. You hereby irreversibly waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to your User Content. ```

Are these texts common ?

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Yes, pretty common. They are intended to avoid a situation where you post your own copyrighted [1] content to their site, then sue them for displaying it without a license.

The long list makes it seem very broad, but this phrase constrains it quite a bit: "solely for the purposes of including your User Content in the Site." This would prevent them from using your content in an ad, or selling your content to some other company, for instance.

[1] Under U.S. federal law, all content is copyrighted upon creation. I hold the copyright on this comment, and I have granted Ycombinator a license to display it on the HN site.

EDIT - here is the relevant sentence from the HN terms of use agreement. It's actually broader than the language you quoted.

> By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose in any form, medium or technology now known or later developed.

does this apply only for contents posted on dstack data servers ?
Yes, this Terms of Use covers only the use of dstack.ai (hosted version) and doesn’t cover the open-source tool.

The open-source tool is fully covered by Apache 2.0.

The open-source library is licenced under Apache 2.0 and has not any restrictions mentioned under the terms listed on dstack.ai. However, the terms on dstack.ai which you quote also sound odd to me. Truth to be told, the current terms were generated by one of the common templates provided for startups. After we put them than, we didn't have a chance to review again. Now that you brought it up, it's certainly time to revisit them. We certainly don't want to claim rights over any of user content. The exception is probably using the published content by the website itself to show it to the users according to the user's sharing settings. Gonna review the terms and come back with an update.