[boomer_joe]

>in Germany and Switzerland they are desperate for good engineers

This is absolutely not true. I don't know why anyone would lie so blatantly.

Engineering and CS graduates are present in abundance, and the job market is brutal.

[netsharc]

Thanks for accusing me of lying. Got any statistics to prove me wrong? I suppose I should also do research to prove what I believe to be right, but from the amount of headhunters contacting me on LinkedIn, my gut feeling is I'm not wrong...

BTW an abundance of graduates don't always equal "good engineers". There is also an abundance of mediocre engineers.

[kyawzazaw]

Germany just recently passed a new law (in additional to the easier blue card visa).

I suppose it will be mostly used by tech companies.

What do you think about that?

[ThePadawan]

What part of "Germany and Switzerland"

I've lived in a major urban region of Switzerland for the last 12 years and I could not disagree more. I've seen companies looking for capable software engineers for years, including paid relocation and arranging temporary housing for them to move into.

[silicon2401]

The German job market is brutal for software engineers? How feasible would it be for an American SE to get a job and move to Germany?

[marcinzm]

Brutal != high salaries. I know someone who got triple the salary when moving from Germany to the US without even trying that hard (FAANG would have been something like 6-8x the salary).