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by theredlion 2137 days ago
> Are there calls for collective ownership of the means of production that I've been missing?

Apparently yes

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Citations?

Are you sure you have it in the right direction? There's forces trying to privatize the post office and the schools, which is the opposite.

Source: look at news on the internet from sites other than the ones calling what we have in this country "American apartheid"
I haven't seen any news source call it that. That's my description, and it seems accurate. After all, South Africa based a lot of their system on how the USA operated.

But what news sources are we talking about? NYT? BBC? WaPo? Seattle Times? Christian Science Monitor?

Apartheid elected a man with no connections, wealth or experience to become the first black president twice in a row and retire a multimillionaire...

Seriously you should drop this extreme radical leftist fever dream perspective because it prevents you from having adult debates.

First, the USA definitely had an apartheid. Though that may be backwards, since apartheid in South Africa was based in part on the social order of the US south. But segregation and Jim Crow laws were a very clear example of "apart-ness" (apartheid). There has been a steady march to dismantle that apartheid including such major events as the civil war and the civil rights movement. When Barack Obama was elected, explicit apartheid had been largely dismantled, though there persists a large amount of implicit apartheid that remains.

Obama was hardly a man with no experience. He was a constitutional law scholar, a community organizer, a civil rights attorney, state senator for Illinois, and a US senator before he became president.

This isn't radical or leftist. The US had segregation (such systems are typically known as "apartheids" in today's vernacular), which continues to have large systematic repercussions.