[kiliantics]

Maybe this is more than what people usually understand when they hear the term "class struggle" but this is actually exactly what Marx is talking about when he describes the "system" of capitalism and how all of the classes are dependent on it even though they are in conflict. This is related to the "inherent contradictions" built into the system which he also discusses.

One word you mention though -- "Hypernormalisation" -- reminds me of a film that made me see the world differently. I don't know if you intentionally used that term, but the Adam Curtis film Hypernormalisation is, I believe, an absolute must watch, probing for some clarification on the logic of the last 40-50 years of history in our capitalist/neoliberal society.

[gremlinsinc]

I've been going some anarch-communist rabbit holes lately. I feel I'm leaning more and more libertarian socialist. I'd accept government medicare for all, but I'm losing hope govt will ever do anything for people.

Another alternative would be: 1 million people start a union, virtual nation, online commune - whatever you want to call it. They donate 5% of their income. That's used for rental property investments, until we have a decent monthly recurring income from rentals.

Then we invest in other things like members startup ideas (as long as they use a worker-coop business structure).

Eventually we pay healthcare costs for all members, and ubi. 100% of money coming back going back out to the people who created it.

We could eventually buy hospitals, drug companies etc and get a stronger hold on the medical costs as well. Flip the script so self-pay and union members get discounts, and insurance carriers pay higher premiums. Maybe we even startup our own insurance companies in all 50 states. All worker-coops. All with CEO capped pay of 10x worker average.

Essentially using a tactic called 'dual power' to wrest power away from the insurance cartel.

[1auralynn]

I had a similar idea, but the organization would provide health insurance from the start. Basically, all gig economy/independent contractors/small business owners could pay into it and get better health insurance than they could buy as independent entities.

[gremlinsinc]

We'd work to provide that, but you need plenty of $$ on hand for healthcare monthly... I mean one cancer diagnosis and if you have 10 members, it's gonna cost 100k minimum that year just for one person... that might eat up the whole budget.

So by building some combination of crowdfund (for when we're under budget), along-side member sharing backed by recurring income, we create a more stable fund that uses 100% of it's money to reward members.

The idea is basically get single payer healthcare outside the government or alongside and force insurance carriers out of the market by coming up w/ something basically non-profit that gives all $$ pooled towards healthcare costs. While working to bring down costs in the industry where possible.

[kirkhawley]

Great idea! Of course you will eventually have to wrest power back from the administrators of your fund, who have taken over control of everything and are doing whatever they want with your money. Just like every other great idea involving wielding power.

[gremlinsinc]

Not if it's ran by liquid or direct democracy. (Delegated democracy). You vote or give your vote to someone else in your behalf, all major decisions are voted on.

Properties we buy etc... Exec payrates, etc...