[star-trek-fleet]

Again, what do you want to derive from the fact?

Associating CCP is a crime?

Note that there is only one party who claims to be totally devoted to serving people. That's CCP.

Can I claim that these CCP members are helping bytedance to better serve it's customers, and help curbe the greedy capitalists from infringing Chinese citizen's privacy?

Or are they finally granted power over the bytedance company? I.e., are they organized to study Mr. Xi's thoughts, or trying to dictate the company's policy etc.

[jimbobimbo]

I was answering the "Why do you think CCP has control over TikTok?" question. Epoch Times article provides enough information to make someone think that CCP may have control over TikTok.

My position on associating with CCP is irrelevant for the original question, but since you asked now, - yes, associating with a communist party (Chinese or otherwise) while not a crime, is not a good thing either. I'm an immigrant from ex-USSR and I've seen first hand what "party who claims to be totally devoted to serving people" means in the real world. You can associate with whom you want, but I wouldn't want any entity associating with a communist party touch any aspect of my life, let alone my data.

[justicezyx]

Have you been China and take a look at how it's like today?

CCP still do horrible thing, like Xinjiang concentration camp.

But it's major part is different than USSR, at least it practices market economy, with private sector as it's main economy driver.

I want people to understand how China works in its reality, not illusion created by media.

[jimbobimbo]

Sorry, but this comment is ironic on multiple levels.

First off, it's exactly the same logic that communists used in USSR. "Look at these beautiful Moscow Subway stations!" (nevermind the gulags); or "Hey, citizen! Go ahead and celebrate and march for the International Workers' Day!" (nevermind the fallout from Chernobyl is peaking).

Second, in the context of the article we're discussing (who is more worrisome from data collection perspective - CCP or SV), why me - the foreigner - would have any illusions of being treated better than China's own citizens (Uyghurs)? Granted, I won't be put into the camp, but to think that my data would be treated with any respect, is to be naive.

[star-trek-fleet]

> the same logic that communists used in USSR

I dont think it's the same, at least not to what I understand.

You have plenty of means to travel freely inside China. As long as you don't engage obvious news reporting activities. That can be proved from numerous videos on Youtube.

Second, you are again making the associative thinking, which I painstakingly trying to point out. Of cuz context matters, and time changes; even today, the concentration camp is less brutal than it was a few years ago. And again, Chinese government has not been actually caught on spying foreign citizens. It certainly spy on its own citizens, which is bad. But you cannot just say that because they might be doing that, then they must be doing that...

Should you be worried that your Tiktok usage data be spyed by Chinese government? Of cuz, I dont use any of bytedance apps, I dont use any FB apps, I never discuss sensitive information on Wechat.

But does that warrant that we can ban the company without legal process? No...