[Phaedor]

And this is why as a European I think that we should take a long and hard look at our dependency of US technology. Its becoming more and more clear that US is not a stable actor.

I think it would be prudent for us to force alternatives to apple and google app stores (and other software) that are housed and owned in Europe. I have no confidence that US intelligence is not accessing our data and setting up profiles on Europeans that could be used for nefarious purposes.

[sneak]

I think a dependence upon US technology should be evaluated separately from US services/companies/staff.

There’s nothing wrong with US tech. There is a lot wrong with US persons, subject to capricious US military/law/spying, having real-time control over your device or the services it needs to run.

You can say the same about Chinese tech. Nothing wrong with the device, everything wrong with allowing a government far away real-time remote access/power.

It’s time to peel away software from services once again.

If we break off the control of software distribution, and disable automatic remote updates (which is manufacturer backform/RCE), hardware in the general case can become reasonably safe again.

[addicted]

This is the likely result of what Trump is doing. Every major country/bloc will now look to create their own commercial internet/social network, etc. And the US will have no basis to complain because it paved the way (the Chinese did it first, but China doesn’t have the clout to lead other countries. The US does)

Setting aside how much of a step back this is from the global utopian internet I suspect the vast majority of posters on HN believed in even a few years ago, the economic impact is gonna be the greatest on the US, which is the biggest beneficiary of a global internet.

If every bloc builds its own siloed internet, its their companies that will benefit at the expense of American companies which currently dominate the entire planet.