[throwaway189262]

Db is slow anyways is the default excuse when using slow web backends.

The one I'm currently working on is blazing fast and were truly hitting postgres limits... At nearly 50k requests a second.

The DB is rarely a bottleneck if you have sane structure and indexes. Ironically the slowest frameworks also tend to generate terrible queries (ActiveRecord, SQLAlchemy), so you end up with a slow database and web framework

[dimgl]

I agree with you. I don't think anyone can convince me to use these bloated frameworks on any project ever again in my life.