[jooize]

Hosting my encrypted data means anyone with sufficient access at any single time can copy the encrypted data and attack it or me, then or later when eventually feasible.

Hosting only an executable I download and execute means the adversarial extraction of data must be contained within the executable and bypass all security from within my system. There is a window of opportunity for sending out a signal indicating the executable can not be trusted.

I do trust the team of 1Password to be competent and not evil, but there are many things that can go wrong anyway.

I remain disappointed that there is no way to set up nor configure a 1Password.com account without the web client.

[ntucker]

> I do trust the team of 1Password to be competent and not evil, but there are many things that can go wrong anyway.

Very much this. I don't benefit in any way from having a copy of my sensitive data in their cloud, so as a very basic security principle, I don't want them to have it.

And that's just for my personal use. If they drop support for local vaults, I have to stop using it for work, too, because my employer prohibits password managers that store passwords in the cloud. My understanding is that these policies are specifically designed to keep us in compliance for government contracts, so I don't think they're changing.

[cmckn]

I agree; and unfortunately I found self-hosted vaults to always be a bit challenging to get right, if I wanted to use my vault on multiple devices. The local-network only sync engine never worked for me, so I ended up using another third-party's servers to sync anyway. I signed up for 1password.com a couple months ago and it's been painless. To each their own!

[infogulch]

> an executable I download and execute means the adversarial extraction of data must be contained within the executable and bypass all security from within my system

(emphasis mine)

Security is about having layers. I can't begrudge someone wanting to add layers to their security.

[risyachka]

True, but same goes to hosting your own server.

And I would bet that a team who's job for many years is to ensure the safety of your data will do a better job at it than 99.9% of users that host it themselves.