[treis]

China has blocked almost every major US internet company. Crying that Tik Tok is being forced into a sale is a bit rich. National Security concerns aside, there's a legitimate argument that the West should be banning every service that comes out of China until they open up their market.

[Drew_]

Or we could try to be the country with better morals than China instead of posturing as one.

[refurb]

Protecting your own national security is immoral?!

[xvector]

Again with the “national security” argument. Yes, it’s immoral, just like PRISM and COINTELPRO and mass domestic surveillance and GITMO and the Patriot Act and the racism at the TSA and secret police and censorship are all immoral despite protecting “national security.”

“National security” is not a valid blanket excuse to implement draconian policies.

[refurb]

Why are you bring up all these other topics?

I'm talking about Tiktok. There is nothing amoral about protecting your country from data collection by a hostile foreign power.

[xvector]

No, it is definitely amoral censor media from your citizens and force buyouts of foreign corporations by inciting xenophobia, so you can now have access to said data instead and spy on your own citizens.

It is not that hard to see. It is amoral for the US to collect data on its own citizens, because historically, the government uses this data to erode our rights.