[rydre]

> Maybe we are seeing the effect of monopolies stifling innovation.

American's will only wake up when it's too late. Zuck will bribe the government in the meanwhile. Corrupt countries become less competitive over time. America is trending on the path of corruption and it's visible to every outsider now, except for unfortunately American's themselves.

[fooqux]

I'm sorry, did you just allude to America being more corrupt than China?

Granted, I'm American, and thus biased. I do see corruption in my government, but from what I can tell it's a small drop in the bucket compared to what goes on in China. Although I guess there could be debate on what defines corruption. But I still hear tales of basically needing to openly bribe officials to get contracts through manufacturing.

[whoevercares]

FWIW, many legal political donation in the west will be considered bribery in China.

[newen]

Truth. Legalized corruption is still corruption.

[rydre]

> I'm sorry, did you just allude to America being more corrupt than China?

I'm saying that America is relatively in my opinion more corrupt than the America of the past.

I'm not comparing it to China, China has a different set of systems. Both systems might work.

[groby_b]

How do you think you get environmental assessments fast tracked? (Except we call it a "political donation" and "lobbying")

What do you think happens when a place like ALEC flies politicians on jaunts to get them to accept pre-written legislation?

Outside of political applications, what do you think happens when pharma reps take doctors to "conferences" in the Caribbean to get them to use their new meds?

On an individual level: What do you think that 'fraternal order of police' donation buys you, and what that car sticker is for?

It might be a bit more dressed up than a naked bribe, but it's still a bribe.