[jaysonelliot]

Perhaps if the bio community had been better about treating animals humanely when they weren't being watched, you wouldn't be subjected to so many rules now.

There are many inhumane things done to animals outside of the lab. Does that mean that we should work to reduce the cruelty of things like glue traps, or that we should increase the cruelty of animal research?

I'm sorry that you have to fill out a lot of paperwork if you want to inflict deliberate pain and suffering on a living creature.

The ethical questions raised by animal experimentation are a well-trodden debate, and I suspect that you have spent enough time listening to, perhaps even engaging in them, not to rehash them here.

We need medical advancements for humans, and sometimes that requires animal testing. That may be, but we also need to advance in our ethics and morals while we advance in our technology.

"You can judge a society by how they treat their weakest members."

[Mz]

"You can judge a society by how they treat their weakest members."

In the US, child protection laws were modeled on previously created animal rights laws.