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by jakeogh 2140 days ago
Citation needed. Reusing a mask that is already loaded with exactly the stuff you don't want to breathe will cause the material to dry as soon as the user stops wetting it with their exhale, and then pass through on re-use because it's under the filter size, even for an N95 which practically nobody is using.

There are good reasons they are called disposable masks.
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bahwhatever 2140 days ago
Viruses don't live forever, and the current coronavirus is no exception. Current estimates for surfaces vary a bit, but I believe it's no more than 1-3 days for fabric. And of course, the decay is exponential. Finally, why would it matter if you inhale stuff you just exhaled? If you're already sick, it doesn't matter anyway. The mask is about you preventing others from getting sick; it only marginally protects you from other people.
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jakeogh 2140 days ago
The exhaled air does not go through the disposable fake mask.

Disposable masks that the majority of people are using are are not for reuse, and it says right on the box "not for viruses". The "oh but large particles they (aerosol experts) didn't think of that" thing is surreal to see people say with a covered face.

Yet those same masks are reused multiple times per day. Taken on and off. The multi-day exponential hand wave fails on reuse, the exhale re-hydrates the medium. Masks have a finite capacity before they are a net negative, and cloth IRL insanity is a growth medium.

The psychology of "wear a fake mask for others" is next level propaganda. It's right in line with the drastically more dangerous social contagion that person X knows better than person Y and therefore is righteous to force their ideas (medical procedures) on person Y.

Conditioning people to make medical decisions for others is too obvious, but here we are, fake masks and all.

It's a deadly religion, which repeats over and over in human history.

Line up. Right? https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/2020/08/03/oakland-unive...

"There is no benefit and there may even be negative impact." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8583925/The-land-no...

http://v6y.net/maskop1

-Seriously-: Why not wear the masks forever?

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misanthropian00 2140 days ago
Every single claim you make here requires scientific evidence as in actual studies that demonstrate such effects. Are you seriously trying to argue that not wearing a mask at all is the optimal way to handle a highly infectious respiratory pathogen? You should be advocating increased availability of N95 or better rated masks instead. I believe the US has made a serious error in only allocating N95 masks to hospitals. The gamble is that surgical masks or cloth masks are enough, but they don't filter very well. Cloth masks are woven and have large holes everywhere making them only somewhat better than nothing. Surgical masks were never intended for serious filtration and don't even form a decent seal. BTW manufacturer claims or disclaimers are not evidence for anything in particular and are irrelevant.
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jakeogh 2140 days ago
"BTW manufacturer claims or disclaimers are not evidence for anything in particular and are irrelevant."

yet...

"Every single claim you make here requires scientific evidence as in actual studies that demonstrate such effects."

Boyle's Law: http://v6y.net/maskop2

Your turn, maybe you can start with "Reuse of medical masks is fine". This issue clearly is generating interest.

Can you say it? Why not wear the masks forever?

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