[flywheel]

>I’m pretty sure nothing from Samsung, Motorola or HTC that's 4 or 5 years-old can run this year's Android release. Or even last year's.

At least android phones can still download apps from the google app store, older iOS devices are just cut off. I have a perfectly good original iPad that's basically useless. The iPad 4 is similarly useless.

>My last machine was a 10-year old 27-inch iMac that I still use as a server.

My current workstation is 10 years old, running Windows 10 like a champ. It's got one of the first 6-core CPUs in it, a recent graphics card, and 32GB of RAM which I may upgrade to 64GB because it's cheap - I have no real reason to get a new workstation, this thing is still running circles around most recent quad-core systems. Your 10 year old mac wishes it were this capable.

I feel really sorry for anyone buying a mac now, since they will be obsolete as soon as the ARM macs are out.

[alwillis]

At least android phones can still download apps from the google app store, older iOS devices are just cut off.

My 7 year-old iPhone 5s is still supported by Apple; it runs iOS 12.4.6 and I just installed a bunch of apps on it.

I feel really sorry for anyone buying a mac now, since they will be obsolete as soon as the ARM macs are out.

The first ARM Macs will start shipping in just a few months; the current Intel Macs won't be obsolete, since they too will get the new operating system and Universal apps will run just fine on both. What part of this are you not understanding?

There's a difference between not the latest and greatest (the ARM Macs) and current, supported machine, like any Mac that can run Big Sur.

I have a PowerPC iMac Mini somewhere—that's obsolete as far as Apple is concerned.