[pjc50]

> Alan Kay put it "Programming is a Pop Culture".

Do you have a reference for the original of this? I can find people quoting him on it but not the original. I'm also wondering: compared to what? What would it mean for programming not to be a pop culture?

[aaron695]

Google Search -> Tools -> date -> click today's date twice -> go back, set top date to 1900, set the second date to 2000.

Get nothing

Go back set second date to 2005 ->

https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1039523

Win?

[merpnderp]

Yes, absolutely a win and thanks for explaining how you found it.

[coldtea]

>I'm also wondering: compared to what?

As I read it, compared to hard science and engineering for example.

>What would it mean for programming not to be a pop culture?

Less cults, less subjective opinions, less influence of marketing and marketeers and brand names, less "fans" and "fanboism" of some particular brand/product/methodology, etc, for one...

[ratww]

He confirms it in this interview, but is quoted as saying that "computing" rather than "programming" is a pop culture.

https://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/interview-wi...