[Robotbeat]

This just isn’t true. The ethnic cleansing in the Uyghur regions is well-documented by several independent sources. EDIT: Here’s one: https://apnews.com/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c

And BTW, your sources include a Medium post, a YouTube video, and Chinese govt controlled media. These are hardly reputable journalistic sources.

[dirtyid]

Your article literally is an example of what the OP cited:

- Multiple citations from Zenz (+Pompeo for bonus points)

- Entire article revolves around testimony of those with 2+ children being subjected to family planning policies (IUD / sterilizations etc).

- Mentions "now-abandoned ‘one child’ policy" without providing context of that new "Two-Child" policy is in affect for everyone, with no minority exemptions.

- Claims 30 interviews reveals how wide spread the practice is. Hint: you can interview 1.3 billion Han Chinese to see how wide spread family planning program was for the last 40 years.

We already know from leaked internal papers the purpose of these camps, the reality is, the camps themselves are boring techno authoritarian reeducation camps (like in France), but the threshold for manufacturing consent requires something meatier like literal genocide. There's sufficient state-level intelligence capability to actually verify the scope of the camps, but western media insists on quoting the same few unsubstantiated sources + Pompeo musings while conveniently omitting facts that goes against the narrative. I.e. recently ASPI "slave labour" study, casually glosses over that the minimum hourly wage from contracts was equivalent to basic salary at Foxconn and 2x annual GDP of prefecture the workers are from. Because the mental image for a prisoner stamping license plates for 50c an hour is different than $20 an hour.

[ebalit]

Could you point me towards what you are referring to when you say "boring techno authoritarian reeducation camps (like in France)"? As a French, I don't know about any program in France that would fit this description.

[dirtyid]

Search French deradicalization boot camps + radicalization monitoring list. Quick research suggest the 2016 program was only partially implemented before being shut down and rebooted under new program in 2018 [0]. Of course the scale in China is going to be greater and execution more comprehensive due to nature of Chinese capabilities. To clarify, I'm only suggesting conceptually the approaches are similar and do not equivocate the two in execution.

The greater context is, Islamic attacks in multicultural European societies in the past 10 years (particularly in England + France) informed internal decision making in China regarding XJ. I remember French banlieue / ethnic enclaves where radicalization was happening were part of conversation on policy debates to revise minority policy in China a few years ago. The position being multicultural "salad bowl", classic soviet oblast model where minorities had relative cultural autonomy had failed to reign in extremism (and separatism in China's case), so now everyone gets sinicized and the Han treatment, aka blending into the US melting pot model.

[0] https://www.france24.com/en/20180223-france-deradicalisation...