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by supertomcom 2159 days ago
Well-produced. Don't really agree with the points the author is making, but see where they're coming from. Charging a fee won't solve the problem, though, they had the most expensive operating system in the world, but I won't get into the details on that, as I think it's the wrong approach.

Seems to me the "simple" fix here is for MSFT to hand vscode off to something like the Apache Foundation (independent organization) for management and oversight. The community could/should push for that to protect it's interests and then we can close this case.
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rumanator 2159 days ago
> Seems to me the "simple" fix here is for MSFT to hand vscode off to something like the Apache Foundation (independent organization) for management and oversight.

Vscode is already licensed under the MIT license.

There are already FLOSS forks of vscode, such as vscodium.

The solution you're advocating is not a solution at all. In practice you're just advocating that MS should stop investing the company's resources to develope the product, because orgs such as the Apache Foundation are already free to fork the project and work on it themselves.

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supertomcom 2158 days ago
No.

I'm advocating that Apache Foundation (or similar) oversee the direction of the project to ensure that equality is maintained

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rumanator 2158 days ago
Yes, you really are. The Apache Foundation is already free to do what it wishes to do with vscore, isn't it? I mean, the vscodium guys already do it, right? Whay stops you or anyone in the Apache Foundation from doing the same? What input do you actually need from Microsoft to achieve your goals?

Let's be honest here: your problem actually lies with Microsoft getting it's money's worth by paying their people to do their work. That's what's bothering you. MS started the project, paid everyone's salaries, managed the project, and once it started delivering arguably the best editor around... Now you want to push it out? Why?

If you really care about what you're advocating then just click on "fork" and be the change you want to see in the world. Then let us know what came out of it.

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supertomcom 2158 days ago
Just to be clear, I'm not the OP (meaning, video producer). I really don't think it matters that MSFT controls it, I use VSCode, and I like it.

But, I also understand that "well, you could just fork it" doesn't fix the problem the author brings up. Who owns the marketplace around VSCode? Who controls what is allowed in? What if MSFT decided to not allow GitLab extensions, or AWS extensions to further its own products? MSFT _has_ done these things in the past.

I'm just saying that handing the governorship of the project to an independent organization would address these issues. MSFT could still build and contribute to it, but the project direction, the telemetry, the ecosystem, could be managed by an independent agency, and that would solve the issues the OP has with the product.

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