Law enforcement is wearing patches identifying their department as well as identifying badge serial number. You can see it in many of the photos of them making arrests or standing in combat fatigues on their upper arms.
You can see this in the following picture but the article still has the title: "Unidentified Federal Agents Are Detaining Protesters in Portland"
And how do you see that when four of them tackle you to the ground, hit you with nightsticks, and put you in zip tie handcuffs? Are you supposed to lightly resist and yell “show me your shoulders!”
A better question is, when the video of all these "unidentified" arrests occur, why does no one look at the footage that is ubiquitous on arrests done by federal law enforcement and does any kind of basic research? Isn't it the job of reporters and journalists to do their homework?
Why is no one asking in good faith why federal law enforcement might feel like they need to take these kinds of actions? Police have been being doxxed for weeks now. "Protestors" show up at the houses of local officials across the country and graffiti, vandalize, and threaten officials. In the case of Mayor Durkin of Seattle, she is a former prosecutor who will always live under the threat of being attacked and killed and these people doxxed her anyways.
Why does no one discuss how the local DA refuses to prosecute and forces the release of people who unilaterally attack police? Be fair and recognize that there are many people who are attempting to gaslight through social media.
As someone already responded, you ducked, dodged, and dived out of answering my question.
A group of people in camo come running up. It doesn’t say POLICE or DHS or SWAT or anything in giant letters on their front, back, or helmet. What are people supposed to do? Ask? They refuse to identify themselves.
Are you going to let yourself be restrained and taken away by people you don’t know?
Impersonation of a law enforcement officer is a huge crime. Because citizens need to know. I would fight tooth n nail any added on “resisting arrest” or “assault of an officer” in these circumstances.
Look at the Breonna Taylor incident. Police executed a no knock warrant close it midnight. Ms. Taylor’s, not knowing what was happening, boyfriend opened fire. Police returned fire. She got killed. The boyfriend is charge with crimes against the police. Worse is the fact the cops were at the wrong house.
> Why is no one asking in good faith why federal law enforcement might feel like they need to take these kinds of actions?
This invalidates any good point you're trying to make. Law enforcement is so much more powerful than random black block protestors.
Who gives a shit that they 'feel' like they 'need' to take these kinds of actions.
Taking these kinds of actions is /incredibly/ dangerous to a functional democracy, and unless we're talking about a bunch of black block people actively killing people and blowing up buildings, or whatever, it's /way/ more dangerous.
I'm wondering if relations between the DA and police have broken down so badly the DA sees the police as essentially unreliable. If they have so little confidence in police arrests, it is time for police reform.
Because the police wear badges and flak jackets that say POLICE on them and they are in a vehicle with POLICE in very large letters. And that’s also why impersonation of an officer is a huge offense. Citizens need to know that person is legit.
And this is why no knock warrants are a scourge to society. Someone smashes your door down while you’re asleep, you respond with extreme prejudice. And don’t say “well you shouldn’t have been doing something bad” because I’ll point out Breonna Taylor where the cops no knocked the wrong door, so of course the boyfriend assumed someone was breaking in.
Yes. But these are the same. The have plate carriers with police on them.
Patches that ID their department and have personally identifiable information.
The main difference is they are using multicam instead of black for the color. And the location of the id informatikn is on a shoulder instead of their breast (given plate carriers)
Sure they are using rentals/unmarked cars but they arent disappearing these people or denying them attorneys or violating habeas corpus
I would probably resist and get beaten up a bit more by the officers. And then I would be hauled away to jail, read my rights and interrogated, and later have my day in court. Justice is served.
That said, what is and isn't a crime, and the punishment doled out for crimes (like resisting arrest when you are unsure they are police) is worth criticism. I don't think these protestors necessarily deserve felonies. But I haven't really seen people criticizing this; they seem more shocked that officers can enforce law with arrests and riot control.
Should quantify “beaten up a bit more” since peeps are having bones broken as well as losing eyesight from “less than lethal” shotgun rounds. Great, you got your day in court. But you’re handicapped for life.
If the officer’s can’t handle extra attention caused by blatantly identifying themselves as officers, they should pick a new profession. Because what they are doing now is just escalating an already bad situation.
