[adenozine]

Your post seems to imply that a bad product negates the respect earned by leading an industry, nay, multiple industries, for several decades.

Do you really truly think that just because the MAX is a POS, that everything that comes out of Boeing can be evaluated under that same lens? Surely you aren't so blind to the reality that engineers do occasionally produce quality work.

To your credit, I wouldn't fly myself or my family in a MAX, but I'm not uneasy about getting into a Boeing aircraft across the board, at the same time. That'd just be irrational.

Perhaps you could clarify your stance, as you may know more than your post reveals.

[LittlePeter]

> Do you really truly think that just because the MAX is a POS, that everything that comes out of Boeing can be evaluated under that same lens?

No I do not. I still wouldn't ever refer to Boeing as well-respected nowadays. Granted, it may be irrational quirk of mine.

To clarify, do I respect Boeing? Yes. But I would not make a post on the Internet and write out "well-respected". I understand Boeing's cultural shift from being an engineering-first company and its MAX fiasco would not warrant "well-respected" in many people's eyes nowadays.

Was Boeing well-respected in the past? Yes. Is Boeing well-respected nowadays? Yes. But to deliberately write it out to me feels like trolling and stoking fire. You surely must understand that a lot of people lost a bit of respect for Boeing in recent years.

[adenozine]

I can understand why it may have sparked those feelings because of the way I wrote it.

I'm a pretty forgiving person, I've spent some time in and around rehab and I've learned personally the value there is in giving people a chance they don't deserve. I know how hard some of the engineers at any big industro-* corp are working, and I choose to have hope that those hard-working folks' ideas and values are represented in the product line that they serve on.

I didn't mean to say that recent events should be scrutinized any less critically, and I disagree with that, especially in the case of passenger aircraft, the utmost care should be taken.

I've read a little bit about 737 MAX, and it strikes me as one of those things where too many boardroom cowboys got to run off and make deals, and the brains and engineers and designers were left with the scraps of an impossible task.

I don't know. I just have a soft spot because I can imagine what it's like for a lot of those guys, going to work and doing their best, and the project is so large that there's just not much any single person can do when it all begins to fall apart at the seams and catch fire. I feel bad that all those people have this terrible mark on them because of the product being a huge, public, terrible failure.

Boeing has done incredible things for the field of aviation, aerospace, maritime, rescue, you name it, they've made a flying vehicle to do it. That can't be washed away because a bunch of guys fucked it up, because it wasn't the people that worked the hardest. So, while I perceive that critically, I respect the name Boeing for what it's given the world in the past.

Anyhow, I wasn't trying to start anything by writing that, I guess it was just part of my thought process that didn't get edited into words very well.

Thanks for your perspective.